(function(d, s, id) { So what if youre a prince. Where was Ha Sun the whole time in those two years???? Also, what a complete waste of what I could have accepted as an okay last 10-15 minutes, or even, heck, half an hour if they'd just used their common sense while writing the damn thing. I am relatively new to historical dramas but I am enjoying them. Though nervous he won't be able to pull off the subterfuge, the decoy leads successfully, and falls in love with the queen in the process. And this show started out like that. and so on. I'm interested to see what's up his sleeve in his forthcoming drama. He manages to throw his sword and take out the assassin about to finish off Ha Sun, then slips around Ha Sun to take the sword meant for him. I bitched about this on my fan wall, but I'm so pissed I'll repeat myself. Two years pass, then HS shows up talking about how much time had passed when he woke up. Thank you for recapping CROWNED CLOWN, @lollypip, especially as it is not the only drama on your plate. Of course, they arent worth the time I suppose. Part of my detachment is also because of what for me were inadequate characterization, and plotting that at times strained my suspension of disbelief. Ha Sun watches, horrified, as Minister Lee grabs a sword from a guard and runs Prince Jin-pyung through, taking several sword wounds in the back himself. P.S. People who watch sageuks want historically acurrate stories, right? Finally they live happily ever after. there could have been a slight nod to MASQUERADE by perhaps having Ha-seon and So-woon leaving on a vessel pulling from shore with maybe Moo-young on shore making a bow; I appreciate your effort a lot. That relationship? A few final thoughts: All she got in return was a bitter forced suicide she was so misunderstood. My take on the ending is that they reunited in death. I was caught up in some work! version : 'v2.2' // use version 2.2 Ever since she promised to protect the clown, everyone keep serving her chopped onions. There was so much dormant potential with this turn of events, yet this treasonous act wasn't delved into further which is a shame. Moo-young yanks the sword from his own belly and uses it to kill the last assassin, as Ha Sun sinks to the ground. We just want better developed characters with a clearer plot and an ending that is believable. He explains that he doesnt wish to give the throne to a child of his blood, so hes been watching the officials for a suitable successor, and he thinks Lord Giseong is the best choice. An emotional farewell with Eunuch Jo (now Royal Secretary Jo) ensues and Ha Sun leaves the palace for good, following after So Woon who left the palace just before he did. All that means nothing if youre going against the almighty Team Good! or xfbml : true, // parse social plugins on this page Then Officer Jang and him could have travelled far searching for the queen, end up in this town at the end and reunited. Jang Gwang. This is a Absurd. It made Ha Sun sound like the Winter General's bartender sister in HWAYUGI. It was about the time due to the constant conflict among the delegates of his courts. My favourite scene was the goodbyes between Eunuch Jo and the Clown, I really loved their relationship. In a new interview with Broadcast, Suzanne Mackie explained that showrunner . And all conflict and tension that should exist because of a Clown being a fake King on a throne and surrounded by people that want to kill him, goes away. He manages to touch the pot of water, but he only tips it over as he dies. As So Woon is unable to bear children, Ha Sun decides to leave the throne to a more worthy contender, proclaiming he was only borrowing the throne temporarily and never fully deserved the accolade. First she lost the king, now she lost the clown. The Queen- The Clown saved the Queen, thus the Queen forgave him, and then also abandoned the King as a pre existing character. In the history of my country we had a doppelganger fake king ruling for 6 years. The recaps were enough. All seems well and as Officer Jang vows to stand by Ha Suns side no matter what, assassins appear to avenge Queen Dowager resulting in both Officer Jang and Ha Sun suffering a terrible fate. In comparison, I was passionately and unequivocally committed to REBEL for the entire run of that show. The drama version had put their own spin on it. Why would I want to watch something when there are no stakes for a plot that should have all the stakes? He only existed to play the King and become the King, at the expense of the King. To show how good and righteous the Clown was? What a lovely ending. 4 Recommended by Shawarma Meanwhile, MLSHR had ALL the potential to be THE Sageuk of the decade, but it tanked, epically. 4/4 Because there were no consequences for the King as a pre-existing character. When I was watching HWAJUNG, I had to put it on the back burner a bit more than half-way through, and didn't get back to it for three weeks. What do you think is better? Not because i didn't like it but because i thought it would cause to loose some viewers as yi heon really had gained some fans despite being kind of a villan (thanks to jin goos excellent acting on a villainous role. If you want to tell a story about a Clown being King, do NOT make that ENTIRE premise hinge on a single character and then treat him as a plot device! I personally like the movie better. It was a great journey and Yeo Jin Gu really killed it. Got bored reading the comments with such fervor to bring the drama down. They wanted, I think, to tell the story of someone from a lower class who is better at serving the people of a nation than those who have been corrupted in power; they wanted to tell the story of what it would be like to put someone like a Clown on the throne, and what it would be like for a Clown to fall in love with a Queen. I think that was an unfortunate oversight. I'm gonna stick to my version, the ending of this series was right after he installed the Tax Law. They look at each other lovingly for a long time, then Ha Sun takes So-woons hand, and they walk home together. A great fit. Or well he did but not the important ones. The first scene in this episode sets the tone. Thank you @lollypip for the recap! One day, Ha Suns ministers bring up the fact that hes led the country to a time of peace, but hes still produced no heirs. 2. Stars Yeo Jin-gu Se-yeong Lee Kim Sang-kyung See production, box office & company info Watch on Prime Video He holds his own well, but neither of them sees the archers who sneak around behind Ha Sun and fire two arrows into his back. Peace has descended across the land and now the attention turns who the new heir to the throne may well be. For his death, Jang's felt like a dream, like some type of awful and heart stopping nightmare. One of these days I intend to watch SHIN DON, which may overlap with JEONG DO JEON. Once he did what he wanted to do, and then some, it was wise of him to make the decision to pass it along to someone else who would use the weight of the throne for the good of the nation. My thoughts are the queen died of a broken heart when she learned the king was dead. Sorry for the late reply! cookie : true, // enable cookies to allow the server to access Even more than the king/clown swap, I loved the smaller stories about Ha Suns relationships, both with his existing family and the new one he cultivated in the palace. However, they should have shown the Queen passing on so that Ho-Sun could have been stated met her in the afterlife. js = d.createElement(s); js.id = id; One that is like a wolf trying to be a sheep and telling everyone that it is a sheep, when its actually still a wolf. Minister Lee : he was really a great character. And then they walk off into the sunset andwhat? It's like you've scooped every single thought I had about this waste of potential right out of my brain and put it in better words. Actually not a copy paste historically accurate like the history channel but more about historically sensitive etc. And your flimsy attempts at trying to justify this by saying that Ha Seon was better than Yi Heon and would never succumb to what Yi Heon did, mean nothing if you refuse to develop Yi Heon as a character! For me, the difference between Minister Lees decisions to end a life and Minister Shins or the queen dowagers is the intent. Ha Sun says shakily that its not a dream, but that hes walked endlessly in a dream to find her. But I guess they all live together happily ever after. She cracks it and makes a wish, but when she opens her eyes, shes still alone. Dal-lae should have reunited with Ha Sun. I sure hope Lord Giseong was also PRINCE Giseong, because there would have been quite a commotion if Ha Sun had passed the crown outside the royal family. Thanks so much for the recaps LollyPip! It's an interesting interpretation, but I prefer them alive :). While there were memorable scenes and dialogue, I feel like the overall message the show was trying to convey got muddled along the way. Poop smell can change for illnesses as well haha. Whatever you want to argue the reason for this was, and whatever you want to argue the reason for Ha Seon blithely forgiving him for this was, and whatever the argument posed for whether Haksan was good or bad, does not matter. Under entirely different circumstances, namely had I liked this show for more than just the first 8 episodes, this final write up would mostly consist of how utterly ridiculous and pointless that fake out death and time jump was; it is stupid for even the flawed story they ended up telling. She asks why hes here and not Minister Shin, and he says that Minister Shin fell in battle, but that theyve got the king locked up. I was confused too about why the queen dowager spoke to Ha Sun as the king. In my view, the story went downhill after Yi Heons death because almost nothing that was set up before then had any serious consequences. It was pretty good Korean Soap Opera but so much tragedy and I did want Haskan to have survived for his happy ending but not to be. This shows single and greatest flaw, therefore, is ignoring the consequences of the King as a pre-existing character as determined by the premise of the show itself. Think about this, initially only Haksan, Jo, and the Monk knew the Clown was pretending to be the King. FB.init({ Theyre both sobbing, grateful to be together again. What is the limit between good and bad? Prince Charles travels to Hong Kong to mark the end of British rule as the region became an administrative region of China. Yi Heon and his contradictions with Ha Sun was truly the only reason why I was intrigued by TCC in the first place. But still could not convince other ministers because if they were proved wrong they will loose their necks. He was responsible for the Queen Dowagers, Shin Chi Soo and the Princes deaths, plus the real King was a complete madman who was responsible for the Queen Dowagers fathers death and his half brothers death and many other atrocious things. He deserves it . I liked the acting, the cinematography, the music themes, the multilayered characters. Legacy? Dunno but I enjoyed it veeery much. Working myself into a lather wasn't good for me. Jong-rim and Jae-gu, who got to take the civil service exam because of Minister Lee, offer to help Ho-geol get revenge, but Ho-geol says theyll only lose their lives. And the drama did well as well. And thats really poor writing. I think @kiara tipped me off about it. How could you just walk out unarmed in broad daylight?? Fictional or not, no sageuk has ever dare to change the royal line of Joseon. Nor can I believe that Prince Jin-pyung would have been caught so flat-footed at the outdoor assembly. He does as So-woon asks and sends her from the palace to wait for him while he ties up some loose ends, and they arrange to meet in the village soon. And he shouldve been. But from what I gather, they didn't. What can I say. It showed his relationships. In this video we take a deep dive and explain Season 5 of Netflix/Peter Morgan's "The Crown" reviewing its connection to the real royal family, history, and . I was happy as a clam that Eunuch Jo and Ho-geol survived the rebellion. How did he recover from 3 arrows??? Its not even just that, its poorly constructed as a concept, let alone a written piece. And why didn't the rebels have scouts out to spot the approaching relief army? The way the camera panned out at the end with them walking off into nowhere and how there were no questions asked and she just said that she had seen him in her dreams etc, could mean that it was their souls reuniting and not their physical selves. Whether you were satisfied with the finale or not, theres no doubt about it, The Crowned Clown delivered one heck of a rollercoaster ride for its finale. But thankfully it didn't. And that there was a happy ending, of course! They want to show his loyalty via his death ? window.fbAsyncInit = function() { I have a few minutes here and there but this show needs my full attention lol. That's how much attention to details that was being paid to the king and his daily routine. What right do they have to the throne? Didnt want it to end. I neglected to state that Jin-goo's performances were great, and that Kim Sang-kyung is a new favorite. The queen dowager thinks a moment, then gives him permission to invade the palace and remove the clown from the throne. A pathetic attempt at last minute drama for characters I no longer care about and a plot that I think is fundamentally flawed only solidifies my opinion that this drama is written stupidly, and badly. Ah.I just can't forget how foolhardy Hasun was to leave without protection when he knew that he had so many people against him. As for Moo-young he died with his boots on. And I'm very happy for YJG that he finally got a drama worthy of his talents. Maybe some beanies can take a shot at that. Thank you, Peony, I'll give a look if I have time. SINOPSIS The Crowned Clown : Joseon dalam keadaan kacau karena pemberontakan dan perebutan kekuasaan di sekitar Raja Lee Hun yang diperankan oleh Yeo Jin-Goo. Then, both Jang and the King could have remained somewhere and tended to their wounds. The entire nation praised his great virtues. As soon as its done, a weight seems to lift from his shoulders. Did he not know that one was a royal twin (considered bad luck?) On the other hand, MLSHR is QUITE the viewing experience, and I do NOT regret the time I spent on it al ALL even though it was crappy. He should have walked away, been protected by the officer, who would then accompany him as he returned to the village incognito to meet up with his sister and the queen. He says that even if he stepped down and one of them took the throne, the country would be okay. She stops when she hears a little girl making a wish to the goblin that protects the house as she holds a cracked hazelnut. Lord Giseong is crowned king, and Ha Sun dresses in common clothing as he packs to leave the palace. For one example: Moo Young. They didn't really expose that at the beginning. Why stop there? Well have the full season review written up shortly but for now, its fair to say the show ended on a well-deserved high. Yes @kiara. I'm not even thinking that this drama is even close to reality lol. They had more than a few epic interludes. Thank you, fellow Beanies, for your thoughtful and thought-provoking comments. Whether you were satisfied with the finale or not, there's no doubt about it, The Crowned Clown delivered one heck of a rollercoaster ride for its finale. If you have time, do go to MLSHR recaps and threads, even if you don't watch it. But we are inevitably always going to reach an impasse @shaani. It's taking all my concentration, too. The story made a lot of promises, and then didnt deliver. She showed no remorse for him being gone after that point. The Clown cannot be King if there is no pre-existing King for him to pretend to be. I was glad that Ho-sun and the Queen finally got together but the ending sounded more eternal due to the mist and not quite earthy. Why did you bother to watch it if you thought it was so bad? The acting was superb, the scenery was beautiful and the story was different from its source material. And some shows just seem to have an initial hump that I have to get over before they draw me in but then from there on out it's smooth sailing. No no. So what happens, when you kill him, and, moral implications aside, there are no consequences to this, is that your plot doesnt frakking make sense. Im kind of glad I wasnt in the mood for this one, even for Jin-goo. And if there is a pre-existing King for him to be then who that king IS (or was) is very, very important. Prince Jin-pyung is in bad shape from his gut wound, but he tries to act like its nothing when the queen dowager visits him. }); But of course everyone can have its own opinion. It reduced the second most important character to a plot device and resulted in him being poorly characterised. Everything was inconsistent. LollyPip, thanks for the recap. I love the show, but they have to redo the ending!!! Whatever you want to argue the reason for this was, and whatever you want to argue the reason for Ha Seon blithely forgiving him for this was, and whatever the argument posed for whether Haksan was good or bad, does not matter. No kiss for the finale? Hmm. Thats all. 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